PRESENTER: Nicole
skeptic: i love the idea of this project!
-would be nice to see systematic documentation of how each chemical reacted with the same page of print+1
-you found the best solvent, but didn’t label what it was!?!?!?!?!??! what?!?
-Acetone substitute seems like a perfectly viable idea!
-would this machine be mechanized to run without an operator? or will a person be involved? if so, is it a performance?
-very helpful to see the prototype; it seems that there are quick a few engineering matters to resolve; plans for that?
-sloping the tray will also make it easier to see/read the text; nice
-once all of the mecahnics are engineered, there’s still some programming/timing design to do; ber sure to save time for that
-would be nice to really see the book/ink
-some way to combine the ink-collection/reuse would make the piece more complete
-material: acrylic? why? books/book/ink/water, a natural mix; plexi suggests commercial production, cheap manufacturing, ….
AeonX8: I am curious as to what you will do with the washed pages… This could be a nice collection of pieces after the performative piece. Perhaps this can somehow feed into what Felipe is referring to in regards of a myth.
Matt: Acetone eats plastic so you may need to look into metal hose line/ bad fumes , clove oil works with toner/ non toxic / still fumes
http://www.nontoxicprint.com/apps/auth/?next=
Alex:
–Craig has used the PITT book machine.
–Mechanics: Please explain the motivations behind the movements. In a piece like this, this seems like the most expressive element.
-How much of the book is erased?
–Machine aesthetics seem huge!
(your books are usually aged looking. Against a new machine is a contrast)
–IF it is wooden or natural materials.
–IF it is metal or synthetic material.
Minnar :
– are you going to remove ink page by page? if so, how are you going to flip pages?
– motorization is going to take a lot longer than you expect ….
– acetone’s unsettled pigment will not really reuse or resettle? You can’t acetone transfer twice, so I’m curious as to how the runoff will hold
– how are you going to deal with the fumes? acetone, especially in large quantities is super awful for your lungs and your brain. not really conducive safety-wise for a gallery setting without a fume hood
Kyle: nice picture with acetone. Keep in mind the mechnism / astetic of the machine inherently holds a lot of weight behind the statement. Does the machine work automatically vs. by hand. Choose based on expression not feasibility. Also what is the setting and/or final setting of the piece.
Felipe:
– I’d like to see some kind of legend (or mith) around this project as to whether this machine exist or not. It’s an ingenious and surreal device that makes me think about censoreship, copyright, intelectual production. I really like the antagonistic and ilogical aspect, but if you prefer to go that route, it needs to be super polished, look fancy! Also, look at this old idea:
http://retronaut.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/The-book-reader-of-the-future-April-1935-issue-of-Everyday-Science-and-Mechanics.jpg
Henry: Lots of chemical testing = good! Well done. Photos for each is good too. :>
Acetone print looks good! Fun workarounds
The prototype is fabulous! The physicality of it is a wonderful thing. I guess motorizing might be a thing that would be good though.
-But ok you are doing that, good!
-Hm. What about the separation of the ink from acetone? OR will there even be any ink remaining? What do?
-I think the liquid channeling aspect of it is a big thing to consider. I guess you are starting that with the plexiglass? But I’m not sure how well the sponge method goes with whatever your goal is. Like. How will it be collected spongewise? A wringing device would be tricky I think. So I am imagining some kind of fountain structure. Ooh. Fountains have symbolism. That’s a thing. Tread carefully etc O:
Comment by NicoleAnderson — October 22, 2012 @ 2:58 pm
PRESENTER: Nicole
skeptic: i love the idea of this project!
-would be nice to see systematic documentation of how each chemical reacted with the same page of print+1
-you found the best solvent, but didn’t label what it was!?!?!?!?!??! what?!?
-Acetone substitute seems like a perfectly viable idea!
-would this machine be mechanized to run without an operator? or will a person be involved? if so, is it a performance?
-very helpful to see the prototype; it seems that there are quick a few engineering matters to resolve; plans for that?
-sloping the tray will also make it easier to see/read the text; nice
-once all of the mecahnics are engineered, there’s still some programming/timing design to do; ber sure to save time for that
-would be nice to really see the book/ink
-some way to combine the ink-collection/reuse would make the piece more complete
-material: acrylic? why? books/book/ink/water, a natural mix; plexi suggests commercial production, cheap manufacturing, ….
AeonX8: I am curious as to what you will do with the washed pages… This could be a nice collection of pieces after the performative piece. Perhaps this can somehow feed into what Felipe is referring to in regards of a myth.
Matt: Acetone eats plastic so you may need to look into metal hose line/ bad fumes , clove oil works with toner/ non toxic / still fumes
http://www.nontoxicprint.com/apps/auth/?next=
Alex:
–Craig has used the PITT book machine.
–Mechanics: Please explain the motivations behind the movements. In a piece like this, this seems like the most expressive element.
-How much of the book is erased?
–Machine aesthetics seem huge!
(your books are usually aged looking. Against a new machine is a contrast)
–IF it is wooden or natural materials.
–IF it is metal or synthetic material.
Minnar :
– are you going to remove ink page by page? if so, how are you going to flip pages?
– motorization is going to take a lot longer than you expect ….
– acetone’s unsettled pigment will not really reuse or resettle? You can’t acetone transfer twice, so I’m curious as to how the runoff will hold
– how are you going to deal with the fumes? acetone, especially in large quantities is super awful for your lungs and your brain. not really conducive safety-wise for a gallery setting without a fume hood
Kyle: nice picture with acetone. Keep in mind the mechnism / astetic of the machine inherently holds a lot of weight behind the statement. Does the machine work automatically vs. by hand. Choose based on expression not feasibility. Also what is the setting and/or final setting of the piece.
Felipe:
– I’d like to see some kind of legend (or mith) around this project as to whether this machine exist or not. It’s an ingenious and surreal device that makes me think about censoreship, copyright, intelectual production. I really like the antagonistic and ilogical aspect, but if you prefer to go that route, it needs to be super polished, look fancy! Also, look at this old idea:
http://retronaut.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/The-book-reader-of-the-future-April-1935-issue-of-Everyday-Science-and-Mechanics.jpg
Henry: Lots of chemical testing = good! Well done. Photos for each is good too. :>
Acetone print looks good! Fun workarounds
The prototype is fabulous! The physicality of it is a wonderful thing. I guess motorizing might be a thing that would be good though.
-But ok you are doing that, good!
-Hm. What about the separation of the ink from acetone? OR will there even be any ink remaining? What do?
-I think the liquid channeling aspect of it is a big thing to consider. I guess you are starting that with the plexiglass? But I’m not sure how well the sponge method goes with whatever your goal is. Like. How will it be collected spongewise? A wringing device would be tricky I think. So I am imagining some kind of fountain structure. Ooh. Fountains have symbolism. That’s a thing. Tread carefully etc O: